now susan rice says this began as a spontaneous, not premeditated response to what happened in cairo. i don't think her language was very careful. that's why they pounced on that language. i think things were slightly settled down today because you heard from dave petraeus because he said she was giving these talking points. i don't think it's settled down completely. i think you'll probably still see john mccain and lindsey graham. >> do you think she'll be secretary of state? >> i don't know. i don't know whether she'll be nominated. that is one of the things that president obama said yesterday. he said he hadn't decided. gwen: how about is this whether she was getting a nomination or how much of not letting him tell -- >> i can nominate anyone i want to. if i want to nominate susan rice, i will. but he certainly hasn't done that right, not put in stone, so we can't do that yet. i think certainly, i have seen a couple of very negative articles in the past 24 hours, too, about her. it sort of seems there is an effort to undermine that nomination. gwen: let's not forget the big story